Andy also rode a TDM 850 (not mine but the brothers) did quite a bit of millage on it nice bike think the new one looks too much like everything else on the road same as the new tiger. The TDM got a little interesting when riding with all the hard luggage on it, lets face it they were always a little wheely happy but loaded up it was hard to pull off with out the front end getting light and riding in nice twisty roads up and down hill it got VERY interesting. Love my Fazer it may be 10 YO but does everything toured on it again all hard luggage been over to the Isle Of Man TT a few times on it easy to ride in traffic good top speed (seen 135 while chasing a police car, yes me chasing it not it chasing me IOM is a "special" place) it shocks the %%!% out of Mr Chav Big fat git on a small bike just the sort of thing they like to play with BAD choice Now I have put a Bi Xenon kit on it the lights are great even looking at removing the spot lamps as they look yellow in comparison.